This is a general thread to talk about categories. If you are not sure how to categorize a certain download or if you have suggestions or questions regarding the existing or new categories, post them here.
Not too sure about the categories "Extinct Procyonids" and "Extinct Mustelids", each hold only one animal currently and I doubt there will be many more added in the future. I'd just list those under Extinct Carnivorans until we have around 5 of each.
Most fishes are just sorted in a category based on their habitat (Freshwater and Marine Fishes) rather than sorted by family, except Sharks and Rays.
My idea would be to make some new categories, for example Eels, Cyprinids, Catfishes and Acanthuridae (Tangs and Surgeonfish), as this makes it easer to look for certain species without having to look through the other fishes.
Yes I think that's a good idea for the fishes, I've been thinking about it too but since I'm not very familiar with fish taxonomy I wasn't sure what categories would be best. Feel free to make some subcategories.
I think the skulls and such should go under indoor scenery, they are not really statues.I've also been thinking of making something like a museum/displays/educational scenery.category.
Yeah, a category with displays and museum scenery would work.
I will start to make some subcategories for the fishes.
Edit: Should I replace the old categories (Marine and Freshwater Fishes) on the animal pages with the new ones, or should I add the new ones and keep the old ones too, so the fishes will be sorted under both e.g. the European Eel; Eels, Marine Fishes and Freshwater Fishes? For now I'll just add the new categories, and keep the old ones too, we can change it later eventually.
Perhaps "Educational Scenery" so we can include animal signs, statues (I think non stone/metal etc since thos are more decorative), as well as displays. Categorizing objects is such a mess...
Yeah I was also thinking about that, I think it's fine to keep both categories like you are doing, since sometimes people will just be wanting a freshwater aquarium for example and not care much about the taxonomy.
I've also thought about themes, but I don't want someone to be looking for some crate for example and not finding it because it's under harbour themed. Also for some items it's obvious, but for some others it can be hard to judge if they should be in the theme category or not.
Yeah I agree about those, I usually put non-functional objects under scenery but it clutters the category, we can remove it since there is a notice that they are unusable at the top of the page. Maybe add "coded as scenery" as a note at the bottom so people don't look for them under animal enrichment/jeep tour etc. ingame.
I have some Ideas on sub-categories for "Animal Remakes".
Could we categorize remakes by expansion pack (ex. marine mania remakes go in their sub-category)? That could make it easier to navigate.
Another suggestion for "Animal Remakes"
Can we create a sub-category for "Remakes that replace the original" or "Remakes that are separate animals" (ex. Bill's Tyrannosaurus doesn't replace the dino-danger T-rex, while Radical Remake replaces the original skins for the animals)?
Not sure about categorizing them by expansion pack, but I've thought about the second division a lot. Either making two separate categories or at least including a notice at the top of the page of whether the animal replaces the original or is coded as a new one. Not sure what would be a good name for the categories though.
It also creates some complications like what is a separate animal remake? Is a JP style T rex considered a remake? Is a subspecies considered one? Creates some confusion there, in some cases it's easy to split, but for example the ES grey wolf is just "Canis lupus" according to its zoopedia, that would include domestic dog, Arctic wolf, Mexican wolf etc. as "remakes".
I want to make several changes to the scenery categories since they are often overlapping, becoming redundant and cluttered.
I've started by making the following categories:
Animal Information Signs: For the regular pic + name + info signs, almost all of them were placed under both Signs and Educational Scenery, cluttering both categories. The new category is a subcategory of both, and I hope this helps keep a better order. It's meant both for pack and single sign downloads.
Paintings & Photos: For frames that hold a single picture, either a painting or a photograph of animals and other subjects. These are usually used more as indoor decoration than education and don't contain text. They were previously categorized as either signs or banners, but I want them in this category solely.
Through these changes I also expect the Signs category to hold signs that give information other than animal info (such as instructions, prices, etc.), and Educational Scenery for items fitting display areas or museums.
I haven't finished fixing the categories since I'm going to sleep, hopefully someone can continue my work, otherwise I'll finish tomorrow. I'm also open to more suggestions to help organizing everything, specially the scenery categories.
Subcategory for Cats, Big Cats. I decided to include non-Panthera big cats like the cougar and clouded leopard, but I'm open to suggestions.
Also made 3 subcategories for Antelope, which was a bit of a mess: Gazelles & Dik-diks, Hartebeest & Wildebeest, and Grazing Antelope. Might make one for duikers and/or for Reduncinae later, but I'm not sure what to call the latter.
I have a suggestion regarding animal categories: When useres are browsing the "Animals by location" sections under "Oceanian Animals", "Pacific Ocean Animals", "Indian Ocean Animals", and "Atlantic Ocean Animals", it might be helpful to have a category for each island/island chain found in that location where all the pages for animals from that island are found. For example, under "Oceanian Animals", It might be useful to have a category for each pacific island (The Hawaiian Islands, New Zealand, The Fiji Islands, etc.) just like there is a category for Australian animals. This might be helpful to anyone looking for animals from a specific isand, as they would only need to go to the category for that island location and they would be presented with an entire selection of animals to choose from. This could also be done with foliage. I am willing to do this, but wanted to see what everyone else thought of it.
That sounds like a good idea and would be appreciated, I'd like to know what would be your full list of Oceania subcategories? I just would like to avoid having too many categories with few animals each (i.e. one category per country is a bit too much), but agree those you mentioned would be useful.
Hawaii, New Ginuea, and New Zeland for sure. Fiji, the Phillipines, and the Chatham Islands, if there are enough animals for it. Lord Howie Island Animals like the Lord Howie Island Stick Insect could go under Australia because while it isnt part of Australia itself, the island is actually governed by Australia (Lord Howie Island is part of the Australian state of New South Wales apparently). Animals from various Indonesian islands like Sumatra, Borneo, and Sulawesi could go together, but they are more Asian Island animals than Oceanian animals. (Therefore if a category was added specifically for Indonesian Island animals it should likely go under Asian animals instead of Oceanian animals)
I created the three subcategories, Hawaiian Animals, New Guinea Animals and New Zealand Animals. They should replace the Oceanian Animals category for endemic animals; if they are also found in other islands of Oceania then keep that category, listing all location categories in alphabetical order (e.g. Australia, New Zealand, Oceania).